Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk

2005 Arizona Sizzler

Open Singles Final

Table Tennis Match Video

Arizona Recreation Center for the Handicapped - ARCH 

1550 W. Colter St.

Phoenix, AZ

14 August 2005

 

Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk

 

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 1 - wmv Video - (24 Mbytes, Length 4:16)

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 2 - wmv Video - (23 Mbytes, Length 4:10)

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 3 - wmv Video - (33 Mbytes, Length 5:53)

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 4 & 5 - wmv Video - (50 Mbytes, Length 9:00)

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 6 - wmv Video - (45 Mbytes, Length 7:58)

 Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 7 - wmv Video - (42 Mbytes, Length 7:26)

 

(Right click and select "Save Target As..." to download video.  Then click the "Open" button to play.)

 

 

 

 

Edge or Not?  Can you tell  - wmv Video (131 Kbytes, 1 second)

Edge or Not?  2 Angles - Hi Res. - Slow Motion - wmv Video (2 Mbytes, 8 seconds)

  Edge Reasoning - The Post Match Documentary - wmv Video - (79 Mbytes, 14:07 Minutes)

  Edge Reasoning - (Low Res. Version) The Post Match Documentary - wmv Video - (16 Mbytes, 14:07 Minutes)

Len Winkler's real, real, real, real, real, real, real reason for awarding a let. wmv video - (4 Mbytes, 1:42 Minutes)

 

Edge or Not Poll - Click Here to Vote

Poll Question: Edge or not? You make the call...
Edge.
   
8 Votes (47%)
Not.
   
6 Votes (35%)
It's unknown and unknowable.
   
2 Votes (12%)
Beats me?
   
1 Votes (6%)

 

Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 6 - Analog Camera - wmv Video - (6:46 Minutes, 37 Mbytes)

Luis Houed vs. Simen Potaychuk - Game 7 Analog - wmv Video - (41 Mbytes, 7:15 Minutes)

Open Singles Match Photos

Simen Potaychuk gets between game advice from his professional Russian coach and sponsor.

       

       

       

     

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Match Comments 
 
12 of 21     Posted Aug-17 8:53 AM Msg 19240.12 reply to 19240.1 PQspin
From PQspinMesssage 19240.12
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

Has Luis ever had any coaching on forehand stroke technique?

He is about 1000 points higher than me in ratings, but I would rather be here in the cellar than slap the ball like that with his body/shoulders parrallel to the table.

I don't mean to sound so critical, but I watch a lot of these video's of 2000+ players and the technique just isn't there. Imagine how well they would play with proper technique.

 

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13 of 21     Posted Aug-17 10:06 AM Msg 19240.13 reply to 19240.12 stevebtx
From stevebtxMesssage 19240.13
To  PQspin     
unless one part of their success is based on the ball being played in an unexpected fashion.   Up to a point, an unorthodox style can be confusing. 
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14 of 21     Posted Aug-17 10:55 AM Msg 19240.14 reply to 19240.12 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 19240.14
To  PQspin     

> Has Luis ever had any coaching on forehand stroke technique?

I don't think he's ever paid for formal coaching.  He does study the game and his life revolves around Table Tennis.

I remember him talking about hitting in Lily Yip's basement once, but I don't think he was being coached at the time.

A few months back I noticed he often went backwards when hitting forehand and I encouraged him to go forward with his stroke.  I think it's best for most all strokes for the racket to travel forward at contact.

--Rob

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15 of 21     Posted Aug-17 11:00 AM Msg 19240.15 reply to 19240.14 PQspin
From PQspinMesssage 19240.15
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     
I noticed that also about his fh strokes going to his right. He ends up leaning backwards on his right leg, with his left leg sticking out trying to balance. He appears to be very off-balanced on those shots going to his right.

 

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16 of 21     Posted Aug-18 1:43 PM Msg 19240.16 reply to 19240.12 bes (bsalter5)
From bes (bsalter5)Messsage 19240.16
To  PQspin     
Pretty is as pretty does - he seems to do pretty well. 

I watched the first video only.  I've noticed that almost all such videos make folks look worse.  I definitely don't want to see myself on video!  I'm sure they look better in person, and, heck 2000+ ratings don't lie.

It didn't take me many tournaments to learn that playing against players with weird styles or equipment is far less comfortable than against "normal" (loopers mainly) ones - assuming they both have similar ratings.

bes
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17 of 21     Posted Aug-18 3:08 PM Msg 19240.17 reply to 19240.16 PQspin
From PQspinMesssage 19240.17
To  bes (bsalter5)     

I know that he could kick my butt probably 11-0 in 3 straight, but the technique leaves a lot to be desired.
Watch Sean's training video. He describes his strokes and what he is doing wrong.

http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=2004%20UVA%20Camp&link=http%3A%2F%2Ftt.mainstreet.net%2Fspo%2FUVA%2DForehand.rm

 

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18 of 21     Posted Aug-18 4:43 PM Msg 19240.18 reply to 19240.17 bes (bsalter5)
From bes (bsalter5)Messsage 19240.18
To  PQspin     
Good Video tips!  Thanks!  I wish that I wasn't so well suited for a role as the "Bad Forehand" model!

My occasional coach is working on the steady elbow part, which is helping.  I usually have my feet in the right, or adequately right place.  I tend to anticipate, and look really dumb when I guess wrong.  Sean's "stab at the ball" statement is a nice way, understated way to describe my futile gyrations at that point...

bes

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19 of 21     Posted Aug-18 5:46 PM Msg 19240.19 reply to 19240.18 PQspin
From PQspinMesssage 19240.19
To  bes (bsalter5)     
Hi bes, same here about guessing wrong and stabbing. I wish Sean had an entire training dvd for sale. His training tips are so valuable. I have to try to make it to his training camp some day.

 

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20 of 21     Posted Aug-18 6:43 PM Msg 19240.20 reply to 19240.19 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 19240.20
To  PQspin     

> I wish Sean had an entire training dvd for sale. His training tips are so valuable.

 

http://store.alphatabletennis.com/dvd101.html

 




Table Tennis 101 DVD

The DVD version of Table Tennis 101!With more competition footage, a slide showwith well over 100 pictures of top players, more animations.You can learn all the basic strokes of Olympic levelTable Tennis. It gives the users a clear overall viewof the skills needed to play competitive Table Tennisand allows them to access each of them directly by aclick of the remote control.U.S. Champions Wei Wang and Sean O'Neill illustrateeach stroke in video clips shot from three differentangles. Audio commentary supports the visual presentation,and the user can study the strokes from three angles.For each stroke, there is a clip that shows world top playersusing it in competition and an analysis section that dissects the stroke into its main components.3D animations are used to explainbasic conceptssuch as spin and ball trajectory and to show themovement of the racket for each stroke, viewed fromthree different angles including that of the player.The random access capability makes it possiblefor the user to quickly zero in on thestroke he wants to studyand equally quickly change topics.

Sections: Forehand and backhand, Looping, Pushing, Blocking, Hitting, The Grip, Positioning, Spin basics, Footwork and practice, Equipment, Competition examples, Slide show, 3D animations of all strokes




Modern Table Tennis 102 video instruction tape

In the modern table tennis game, the outcome of many matches depends on which of the players controls the early part of the point better. The best counter looping or -hitting techniques will be of no use to a player who cannot get beyond the first two ball exchanges of the point. This video tape concentrates on the main points of serving and serve-receiving. It is assumed that you are familiar with the basic techniques of table tennis as they are discussed in the video "Modern Table Tennis 101". Now, Wei and Sean concentrate on deepening your understanding of the serve motion, serve strategy, receive motion, receive footwork and receive strategy. Since there are many different ways to receive a serve, all basic techniques, including pushing, dropping, flicking and sliding are covered. As in the previous tape, stop- and slow motion are used to clearly show all movements. Examples from international competitions are used to show, how each of these techniques is applied by world class players competing against each other. At the end of each main section, Wei and Sean show you practice drills designed to build consistency in that specific phase of the rally. Technique and strategy of the following are covered:

 

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- Forehand Top- and Sidespin Serves
- Forehand Underspin Serve
- Backhand Top and Sidespin Serves
- Backhand Underspin Serve
- Serve - Attack Drills

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- Forehand receives
- Backhand receives
- Receive Drills


 




Modern Table Tennis video instruction set

See the individual descriptions for Modern Table Tennis 101 and 102. You can choose 101 on video or DVD. 102 is only available on video.


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Date: 2005-08-19T02:52:18


 

Houed, Luis F.

Rating Change
2021±55 + 22 = 2043±47

Wins

Losses

Point
Change

Opponent's
Rating

Opponent

Score

Point
Change

Opponent's
Rating

Opponent

Score

+20

2044±58

Nakada, Mitsutshi

8 7 3 -7 5

-7*

2142±59

Potaychuk, Semen

4 -7 16 4 8

+13

2011±54

Cone, Derrick

-14 11 -7 5 8 8

-7*

2142±59

Potaychuk, Semen

9 -7 11 -6 9 -8 9

+1

1798±52

Borrillo, Marco

-10 -7 2 11 8 -7 7

+1

1739±40

Trudell, Robert

3 7 4 -11 6

 

 

 

 

Potaychuk, Semen

Rating Change
2133±61 + 28 = 2161±55

Wins

Losses

Point
Change

Opponent's
Rating

Opponent

Score

Point
Change

Opponent's
Rating

Opponent

Score

+10*

2053±50

Houed, Luis F.

9 -7 11 -6 9 -8 9

+10*

2053±50

Houed, Luis F.

4 -7 16 4 8

+4

1984±69

Winkler, Matt

-5 -12 13 8 10 4

+2

1913±53

Leu, Gia

9 6 -8 7 -12 -12 3

0

1796±51

Borrillo, Marco

-4 -9 -3 7 6 9 3

0

1738±40

Trudell, Robert

-9 6 -9 3 7 1

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Houed, Luis F.

Arizona Sizzler 

Rating before tournament: 2019

Rating after tournament: 2029

Rating change: 10

see complete history for Houed, Luis F.
Event

Results

Score

Rating +/-

Wins
1,1,3,s,7,11
Nakada, Mitsutoshi (2016) complete history
8,7,3,-7,5 8
1,2,1,r,7,11
Trudell, Robert (1782) complete history
3,7,4,-11,6 1
1,2,1,r,7,11
Borrillo, Marco J. (1791) complete history
-10,-7,2,11,8,-7,7 1
1,2,2,s,7,11
Cone, Derrick (2033) complete history
-14,11,-7,5,8,8 10
Losses
1,1,4,s,7,11
Potaychuk, Simon (2099) complete history
9,-7,11,-6,9,-8,9 -5
1,2,1,r,7,11
Potaychuk, Simon (2099) complete history
4,-7,16,4,8 -5

Potaychuk, Simon

Arizona Sizzler 

Rating before tournament: 2099

Rating after tournament: 2119

Rating change: 20

see complete history for Potaychuk, Simon
Event

Results

Score

Rating +/-

Wins
1,1,4,s,7,11
Houed, Luis F. (2019) complete history
9,-7,11,-6,9,-8,9 5
1,2,1,r,7,11
Trudell, Robert (1782) complete history
-9,6,-9,3,7,1 0
1,2,1,r,7,11
Borrillo, Marco J. (1791) complete history
-4,-9,-3,7,6,9,3 0
1,2,1,r,7,11
Houed, Luis F. (2019) complete history
4,-7,16,4,8 5
1,2,3,s,7,11
Winkler, Matt (2111) complete history
-5,-12,13,8,10,4 8
1,4,2,s,7,11
Leu, Gia (1959) complete history
9,6,-8,7,-12,-12,3 2
Losses

 

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can i ask why the hell are they wearing pants....and a jacket.

isnt that illeagle to wear "tracksuit"

also, i cant move properly with pants. i need shorts...not JM saieve shorts but just normal shorts

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*JC* wrote:
can i ask why the hell are they wearing pants....and a jacket.

isnt that illeagle to wear "tracksuit"

also, i cant move properly with pants. i need shorts...not JM saieve shorts but just normal shorts

Luis takes pride in his ability to keep his sweat pants on.  He's been confronted in the past but always dodges the bullet. 

I think he's been asked to remove them in California, New Mexico, Arizona and at the Nationals in Las Vegas.

I didn't see anyone wearing a jacket.  Could you point to where you see that?

--Rob

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i think that was definitely an edge!
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do you have info on the 2005 Arizona Open DVD's? I'm in the second dvd i think.

I'd even like to buy it.

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KevD wrote:
do you have info on the 2005 Arizona Open DVD's? I'm in the second dvd i think.

I'd even like to buy it.

I was having a hard time copying them before, but I think I might be able to reproduce them now.

I'll see if I can and let you know.

--Rob

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KevD wrote:
do you have info on the 2005 Arizona Open DVD's? I'm in the second dvd i think.

I'd even like to buy it.

Here's the clip with you in it:

http://tt.mainstreet.net/ttoutpost/Arizona_Open_Kevin_Dolan_vs_Linda_Jones.htm

I am able to copy the DVDs now.  I just need to print the DVD labels and the case artwork and then I'll be ready to sell you a copy.  Would you like to use paypal, cash, check, or a money order?

--Rob

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It looks like an edge ball...but not really an edge ball..very close though.

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